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	<title>Comments on: 2 new conflicting iPhone reports support &#8220;multiple iPhone models&#8221; rumor</title>
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		<title>By: cbolicious</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/04/2-new-conflicting-iphone-reports-support-multiple-iphone-models-rumor/comment-page-1/#comment-152568</link>
		<dc:creator>cbolicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if they are adding a second screen so that we can do video chat without moving the camera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if they are adding a second screen so that we can do video chat without moving the camera</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/04/2-new-conflicting-iphone-reports-support-multiple-iphone-models-rumor/comment-page-1/#comment-152564</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another contridicting site posted this http://www.ipod-addicts.com/iphone/3g-iphone-rumored-to-be-only-slightly-thicker-and-have-glossy-black.html one day and then posted this the next http://www.ipod-addicts.com/iphone/new-3g-iphone-reports-3g-iphone-to-be-smaller-and-lighter.html

interesting how sites have all the rumors but no announcement from apple yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another contridicting site posted this <a href="http://www.ipod-addicts.com/iphone/3g-iphone-rumored-to-be-only-slightly-thicker-and-have-glossy-black.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipod-addicts.com/iphone/3g-iphone-rumored-to-be-only-slightly-thicker-and-have-glossy-black.html</a> one day and then posted this the next <a href="http://www.ipod-addicts.com/iphone/new-3g-iphone-reports-3g-iphone-to-be-smaller-and-lighter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipod-addicts.com/iphone/new-3g-iphone-reports-3g-iphone-to-be-smaller-and-lighter.html</a></p>
<p>interesting how sites have all the rumors but no announcement from apple yet!</p>
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		<title>By: zippi</title>
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		<dc:creator>zippi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... HOW would you type numbers (or for that matter text messages) on the iPhone Shuffle?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; HOW would you type numbers (or for that matter text messages) on the iPhone Shuffle?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/04/2-new-conflicting-iphone-reports-support-multiple-iphone-models-rumor/comment-page-1/#comment-152531</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Peter:
I agree completely.

@ Constable Odo:
Everyone else makes cheap phones, Odo. Apple simply has no reason to try to compete in that kind of market. Sure, they could make a &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; cheap phone, but it still wouldn&#039;t be the iPhone experience they have already created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Peter:<br />
I agree completely.</p>
<p>@ Constable Odo:<br />
Everyone else makes cheap phones, Odo. Apple simply has no reason to try to compete in that kind of market. Sure, they could make a <em>better</em> cheap phone, but it still wouldn&#8217;t be the iPhone experience they have already created.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/04/2-new-conflicting-iphone-reports-support-multiple-iphone-models-rumor/comment-page-1/#comment-152530</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see Apple putting out two different phones, but three would be a crowd. Once you get down to the supposed iPhone Shuffle, it would necessarily be too cheap/low end to include a touch screen (price range of say $80-$140?), and without a touch-screen, it&#039;s not an iPhone anymore. I don&#039;t think Apple will get into the low-end phone market. The iPod line doesn&#039;t just magically carry across to iPhone.

I deeply believe, however, that Apple will introduce a line of two phones with markedly differentiated features to appeal to different markets, even if they are in similar form factors. A higher-end phone would lead the way in new features, including 3G and possibly GPS, and will maintain a higher-maximum amount of storage - say 32GB over the lower-end&#039;s 16GB (or 16GB to 8GB). The lower-end phone would be similar to the iPhone we enjoy today and would not likely include 3G. Both phones would support all enterprise features introduced in the 2.0 update, and both would have matching or similar battery life ratings.

This is just what makes sense to me, based on how I perceive the way Apple thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see Apple putting out two different phones, but three would be a crowd. Once you get down to the supposed iPhone Shuffle, it would necessarily be too cheap/low end to include a touch screen (price range of say $80-$140?), and without a touch-screen, it&#8217;s not an iPhone anymore. I don&#8217;t think Apple will get into the low-end phone market. The iPod line doesn&#8217;t just magically carry across to iPhone.</p>
<p>I deeply believe, however, that Apple will introduce a line of two phones with markedly differentiated features to appeal to different markets, even if they are in similar form factors. A higher-end phone would lead the way in new features, including 3G and possibly GPS, and will maintain a higher-maximum amount of storage &#8211; say 32GB over the lower-end&#8217;s 16GB (or 16GB to 8GB). The lower-end phone would be similar to the iPhone we enjoy today and would not likely include 3G. Both phones would support all enterprise features introduced in the 2.0 update, and both would have matching or similar battery life ratings.</p>
<p>This is just what makes sense to me, based on how I perceive the way Apple thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Constable Odo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constable Odo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be three versions maximum.  One built to the current iPhone with all the goodies, one built for road warriors with extra battery life and a girlie version for people with tiny hands and arms too weak to lift the other two models.  Maybe the small model is geared for Asians due to their smaller size.

I do believe people should have some choice in models since all the other handset companies give users choices in models.  One size does not fit all.  However, I do not see how the current iPhone is too big and heavy.  Has America really become the land of couch potatoes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be three versions maximum.  One built to the current iPhone with all the goodies, one built for road warriors with extra battery life and a girlie version for people with tiny hands and arms too weak to lift the other two models.  Maybe the small model is geared for Asians due to their smaller size.</p>
<p>I do believe people should have some choice in models since all the other handset companies give users choices in models.  One size does not fit all.  However, I do not see how the current iPhone is too big and heavy.  Has America really become the land of couch potatoes?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But for those that want the capabilities of the iPhone in a smaller size its a great idea.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, the screen is arguably one of the &quot;capabilities&quot; of an iPhone.  For example, you could run a web browser on a smaller screen, sure.  But would it be worth using in anything other than a desperate emergency?

That&#039;s the tricky part.  Can Apple cram an iPhone experience into a smaller size?  Consider the iPod--even without a visual interface (iPod shuffle), it still does what you want it to do: Play Music.  Most people don&#039;t &quot;use&quot; their iPods--they set them and forget them.  Bring up the appropriate playlist and start listening.

But I think people actually &lt;i&gt;use&lt;/i&gt; their iPhones.  Web browsing requires a decent screen.  We can, arguably, passively watch videos on an iPod nano screen.  But actually trying to interact with the web?  I don&#039;t think so.

And with more applications coming for the iPhone, people will be using them for more and more things.  But I certainly don&#039;t want to track my expenses on a little tiny screen.

So the argument now becomes, &quot;What do I lose from the lesser versions?&quot;  Imagine the proverbial &quot;iPhone shuffle.&quot;  It makes phone calls and plays music.  Personally, I wouldn&#039;t run out and buy one because I&#039;m not really gaining anything from my two separate devices:  cheap cell phone and iPod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But for those that want the capabilities of the iPhone in a smaller size its a great idea.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, the screen is arguably one of the &#8220;capabilities&#8221; of an iPhone.  For example, you could run a web browser on a smaller screen, sure.  But would it be worth using in anything other than a desperate emergency?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the tricky part.  Can Apple cram an iPhone experience into a smaller size?  Consider the iPod&#8211;even without a visual interface (iPod shuffle), it still does what you want it to do: Play Music.  Most people don&#8217;t &#8220;use&#8221; their iPods&#8211;they set them and forget them.  Bring up the appropriate playlist and start listening.</p>
<p>But I think people actually <i>use</i> their iPhones.  Web browsing requires a decent screen.  We can, arguably, passively watch videos on an iPod nano screen.  But actually trying to interact with the web?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>And with more applications coming for the iPhone, people will be using them for more and more things.  But I certainly don&#8217;t want to track my expenses on a little tiny screen.</p>
<p>So the argument now becomes, &#8220;What do I lose from the lesser versions?&#8221;  Imagine the proverbial &#8220;iPhone shuffle.&#8221;  It makes phone calls and plays music.  Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t run out and buy one because I&#8217;m not really gaining anything from my two separate devices:  cheap cell phone and iPod.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldenboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldenboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that Doug is some 400 lb. guy in Palo Alto, CA taking care of his grandma. He used to work at Apple until he got fired...he forgot to clean the men&#039;s 2nd floor bathrooms.

Of course, this is just a rumor, just like the iPhone shuffle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that Doug is some 400 lb. guy in Palo Alto, CA taking care of his grandma. He used to work at Apple until he got fired&#8230;he forgot to clean the men&#8217;s 2nd floor bathrooms.</p>
<p>Of course, this is just a rumor, just like the iPhone shuffle.</p>
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		<title>By: hugedeal</title>
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		<dc:creator>hugedeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mason
The rumor is for one larger, one smaller (2.8 inch screen).  The illustration of the shuffle is a joke, follow the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mason<br />
The rumor is for one larger, one smaller (2.8 inch screen).  The illustration of the shuffle is a joke, follow the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok honestly, what point is there in an &quot;iPhone Shuffle&quot;
The whole point of an iPhone is to have at least two things in one...the iPod and a phone. Add more, and that&#039;s just better, but take some off and all you&#039;re going to have is either a phone or an iPod which you can get separately anyways. I&#039;m guessing that an iPhone Shuffle would likely have a memory of 4GB or so, and cost at least $100 (probably more). Plus service and activation fees. And I don&#039;t know about you, but the iPhone screen is small enough for web browsing...the iPhone Shuffle&#039;s screen looks like it would be enough to read a few lines at a time, assuming they left that capability available. Nor is the screen big enough for much else that the iPhone is capable of. 
The iPhone Nano seems like a pretty good idea though. Personally, I&#039;d stick to the full size model only for screen size. But for those that want the capabilities of the iPhone in a smaller size its a great idea.
 I&#039;d also really like to see a fully capable GPS integrated into the iPhone...weight isn&#039;t much of an issue for me. 
But seriously...a Shuffle model? C&#039;mon people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok honestly, what point is there in an &#8220;iPhone Shuffle&#8221;<br />
The whole point of an iPhone is to have at least two things in one&#8230;the iPod and a phone. Add more, and that&#8217;s just better, but take some off and all you&#8217;re going to have is either a phone or an iPod which you can get separately anyways. I&#8217;m guessing that an iPhone Shuffle would likely have a memory of 4GB or so, and cost at least $100 (probably more). Plus service and activation fees. And I don&#8217;t know about you, but the iPhone screen is small enough for web browsing&#8230;the iPhone Shuffle&#8217;s screen looks like it would be enough to read a few lines at a time, assuming they left that capability available. Nor is the screen big enough for much else that the iPhone is capable of.<br />
The iPhone Nano seems like a pretty good idea though. Personally, I&#8217;d stick to the full size model only for screen size. But for those that want the capabilities of the iPhone in a smaller size its a great idea.<br />
 I&#8217;d also really like to see a fully capable GPS integrated into the iPhone&#8230;weight isn&#8217;t much of an issue for me.<br />
But seriously&#8230;a Shuffle model? C&#8217;mon people.</p>
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