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	<title>Comments on: Where the #$%@ is the iPhone 2.0.1 firmware?!</title>
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		<title>By: Chris in Boulder</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-159597</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Boulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a first gen iphone, upgraded to 2.0, and had many crashes with apps, but it always came back. I&#039;m facing my first stuck apple logo. I tried holding down the home button during the boot. didn&#039;t work for me.

If apps crash as soon as they start, just add or delete one app to flush the app list, and they all start working again. And ALWAYS type in your itunes password when it asks, dont cancel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a first gen iphone, upgraded to 2.0, and had many crashes with apps, but it always came back. I&#8217;m facing my first stuck apple logo. I tried holding down the home button during the boot. didn&#8217;t work for me.</p>
<p>If apps crash as soon as they start, just add or delete one app to flush the app list, and they all start working again. And ALWAYS type in your itunes password when it asks, dont cancel.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullit</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158954</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well to bad for you, i own a 3g phone for 2 weeks now, and i haven&#039;t had any crash. and i run many third party application. 

well good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to bad for you, i own a 3g phone for 2 weeks now, and i haven&#8217;t had any crash. and i run many third party application. </p>
<p>well good luck</p>
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		<title>By: digiprod</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158935</link>
		<dc:creator>digiprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update, after 22 total restores and many many crashes and quits I brought the iPhone 3G to the Genius Bar, they replaced it without questions when I told them what was happening making me think I was NOT alone (although, the Apple Forums are FULL of problems with 2.0 and iTunes problems).

I got the new iPhone 3G on Friday afternoon, I have already had to do 2 total restores on the new one! Crashs, quits, and the stuck Apple logo killing the phone has been my experience. The last two times it died was was using Safari - it crashed leaving me with the Apple logo and would not restart.

The second time I just deleted AIM on the iPhone as it was quitting. It killed the iPhone. The first iPhone died differently so many times I lost count. Unfortunately the new repacement one that was BRAND new, not a replacement part seems no better.

I have tried running only a few apps and restoring it from different Macs and have even re-downloaded the Firmware several times. 

I am now going to try to run the iPhone without ANY third party apps at all and see what happens. Kind of kills the point of owning an iPhone 3G, but I am at my wits end with this phone.

The restores take forever and when it happens on the road it leaves me without a phone! This is the worst experience I have ever had with an Apple product, maybe the worst with any product. This was no ready for public consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update, after 22 total restores and many many crashes and quits I brought the iPhone 3G to the Genius Bar, they replaced it without questions when I told them what was happening making me think I was NOT alone (although, the Apple Forums are FULL of problems with 2.0 and iTunes problems).</p>
<p>I got the new iPhone 3G on Friday afternoon, I have already had to do 2 total restores on the new one! Crashs, quits, and the stuck Apple logo killing the phone has been my experience. The last two times it died was was using Safari &#8211; it crashed leaving me with the Apple logo and would not restart.</p>
<p>The second time I just deleted AIM on the iPhone as it was quitting. It killed the iPhone. The first iPhone died differently so many times I lost count. Unfortunately the new repacement one that was BRAND new, not a replacement part seems no better.</p>
<p>I have tried running only a few apps and restoring it from different Macs and have even re-downloaded the Firmware several times. </p>
<p>I am now going to try to run the iPhone without ANY third party apps at all and see what happens. Kind of kills the point of owning an iPhone 3G, but I am at my wits end with this phone.</p>
<p>The restores take forever and when it happens on the road it leaves me without a phone! This is the worst experience I have ever had with an Apple product, maybe the worst with any product. This was no ready for public consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: digiprod</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158652</link>
		<dc:creator>digiprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone following this. I am now doing total restore number SIX on my iPhone 3G. I made the mistake of trying to install 1password from the App Store and it crashed yet again reducing my iPhone to a Apple logo neon sign.

This time I downloaded 1password to my iTunes on my MacBook Pro and simply tried to sync the iPhone 3G to it.

iPhone 3G crashed while trying to install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone following this. I am now doing total restore number SIX on my iPhone 3G. I made the mistake of trying to install 1password from the App Store and it crashed yet again reducing my iPhone to a Apple logo neon sign.</p>
<p>This time I downloaded 1password to my iTunes on my MacBook Pro and simply tried to sync the iPhone 3G to it.</p>
<p>iPhone 3G crashed while trying to install.</p>
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		<title>By: digiprod</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158596</link>
		<dc:creator>digiprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lane,

Glad your experience with your two iPhones has been good. But I just finished the FIFTH TOTAL RESTORE on my iPhone 3G, it cashed again this morning and all I got was the Apple Logo for three hours yet again! I will tell you this is NOT fun as the restore in the middle of the day takes a very long time and I have no phone for hours! Imagine if I was an inexperienced user who had to trek down to the Genius Bar each time my iPhone crashed?

Also note I have restored this iPhone 3G using two different Macs, a 24&quot; iMac and a MacBook Pro, so we can take the Mac out of the problem.

Before you think this is only a particular iPhone 3G, it is not. As I explained before we have two iPhone 3G and one iPhone first generation. I struggled with the original iPhone last night just to get it to sync and install AIM. This is a different iPhone and yet a different Mac (MacBook).

Apple really blew it in my opinion of being a techie for 25 years and a Mac consultant for 7 years. iTunes and the iPhone software was not ready, period. 

MobileMe service and syncing sucks. I have been waiting an hour so far and no contact or bookmark updates, only calendars. So much for &quot;push&quot;

The iPhone is an incredible product, when it works. Problem is it has never worked longer than 2 days without needing a total restore. Applications constantly quit, downloading apps from the App Store on the iPhone directly is slow, sometimes will crash your iPhone and a terrible experience.

Apple might want to consider some serious quality control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lane,</p>
<p>Glad your experience with your two iPhones has been good. But I just finished the FIFTH TOTAL RESTORE on my iPhone 3G, it cashed again this morning and all I got was the Apple Logo for three hours yet again! I will tell you this is NOT fun as the restore in the middle of the day takes a very long time and I have no phone for hours! Imagine if I was an inexperienced user who had to trek down to the Genius Bar each time my iPhone crashed?</p>
<p>Also note I have restored this iPhone 3G using two different Macs, a 24&#8243; iMac and a MacBook Pro, so we can take the Mac out of the problem.</p>
<p>Before you think this is only a particular iPhone 3G, it is not. As I explained before we have two iPhone 3G and one iPhone first generation. I struggled with the original iPhone last night just to get it to sync and install AIM. This is a different iPhone and yet a different Mac (MacBook).</p>
<p>Apple really blew it in my opinion of being a techie for 25 years and a Mac consultant for 7 years. iTunes and the iPhone software was not ready, period. </p>
<p>MobileMe service and syncing sucks. I have been waiting an hour so far and no contact or bookmark updates, only calendars. So much for &#8220;push&#8221;</p>
<p>The iPhone is an incredible product, when it works. Problem is it has never worked longer than 2 days without needing a total restore. Applications constantly quit, downloading apps from the App Store on the iPhone directly is slow, sometimes will crash your iPhone and a terrible experience.</p>
<p>Apple might want to consider some serious quality control.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158556</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TouchÃ©

I guess I&#039;m just lucky, my 2 iPhones have never given me probs and have jailbroken both successfully. I do admit the 2.0 on the 1st gen is a no no upgrade, a bit laggy, but never completely trashed my iPhone or forced a restore.

I do agree, MobileMe is silly, and I&#039;d never pay for it, until it works instantly and is stable.

Lane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TouchÃ©</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m just lucky, my 2 iPhones have never given me probs and have jailbroken both successfully. I do admit the 2.0 on the 1st gen is a no no upgrade, a bit laggy, but never completely trashed my iPhone or forced a restore.</p>
<p>I do agree, MobileMe is silly, and I&#8217;d never pay for it, until it works instantly and is stable.</p>
<p>Lane</p>
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		<title>By: digiprod</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158483</link>
		<dc:creator>digiprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lane

Sorry to rain on your Apple parade. But we have three iPhones in my household, 2 brand new 3G and an upgraded 1st generation to the 2.0 software. All of them have had crashing, quitting, scrolling, and we had to do 4 total restores so far. My co-worker has two iPhones and has had problems also.

I am an Apple consultant and have had several calls from clients cursing the &quot;clunky&quot; and crashing 2.0 iPhone software. Macenstein is a member of a long list of people with problems!

This by far is the most &quot;not ready for prime-time&quot; release in many years. I have read some emails from some Apple guys that have stated the software was not really ready and a software release is on the way. It could not be sooner!!!

Saying that Apple does not read or care about complains on this website is a bit back-handed. All you have to do is read Apple&#039;s OWN discussion forums and the feedback they are getting from users and see that Apple KNOWS they have a problem. 

Take a look at the TERRIBLE rollout of MobileMe. Apple has been slammed all over the place in the NY Times, WSJ and several other mainstream publcations. Apple is offering a free month to all MobileMe users. So they know and will have to address this fast or pay the price for lousy service.

If you release a 2nd gen product with 2.0 software it should not have been this buggy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lane</p>
<p>Sorry to rain on your Apple parade. But we have three iPhones in my household, 2 brand new 3G and an upgraded 1st generation to the 2.0 software. All of them have had crashing, quitting, scrolling, and we had to do 4 total restores so far. My co-worker has two iPhones and has had problems also.</p>
<p>I am an Apple consultant and have had several calls from clients cursing the &#8220;clunky&#8221; and crashing 2.0 iPhone software. Macenstein is a member of a long list of people with problems!</p>
<p>This by far is the most &#8220;not ready for prime-time&#8221; release in many years. I have read some emails from some Apple guys that have stated the software was not really ready and a software release is on the way. It could not be sooner!!!</p>
<p>Saying that Apple does not read or care about complains on this website is a bit back-handed. All you have to do is read Apple&#8217;s OWN discussion forums and the feedback they are getting from users and see that Apple KNOWS they have a problem. </p>
<p>Take a look at the TERRIBLE rollout of MobileMe. Apple has been slammed all over the place in the NY Times, WSJ and several other mainstream publcations. Apple is offering a free month to all MobileMe users. So they know and will have to address this fast or pay the price for lousy service.</p>
<p>If you release a 2nd gen product with 2.0 software it should not have been this buggy!</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158424</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 3G iPhone and it&#039;s jailbroken and runs like a champ and has since day one, my 1st gen also had NO problems being jailbroken! I have not heard of any horros stories like this other than 2.0 is a bit clunky, but not all the problems you suggest Macenstein. It might be something you are doing wrong?!?

I find it hard to believe you have received 4 or whatever iPhones and they were all bad, No Way! Operator error, or faulty machine that you are loading it from. period.

Are you guys installing or restoring from old firmware, or what? I have 6 friends that have iPhone 3G&#039;s and not one has reportd a problem, much less had to restore four, five, six times etc. If you think bitching here about it and DEMANDING a firmware release NOW as you say good luck, I&#039;m sure Apple doesn&#039;t read and then say, ooooohhhh this guys mad we better get that rolling and fast!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 3G iPhone and it&#8217;s jailbroken and runs like a champ and has since day one, my 1st gen also had NO problems being jailbroken! I have not heard of any horros stories like this other than 2.0 is a bit clunky, but not all the problems you suggest Macenstein. It might be something you are doing wrong?!?</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe you have received 4 or whatever iPhones and they were all bad, No Way! Operator error, or faulty machine that you are loading it from. period.</p>
<p>Are you guys installing or restoring from old firmware, or what? I have 6 friends that have iPhone 3G&#8217;s and not one has reportd a problem, much less had to restore four, five, six times etc. If you think bitching here about it and DEMANDING a firmware release NOW as you say good luck, I&#8217;m sure Apple doesn&#8217;t read and then say, ooooohhhh this guys mad we better get that rolling and fast!!!</p>
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		<title>By: digiprod</title>
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		<dc:creator>digiprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brett

iPhone 3G is a second generation product and the software is 2.0! Should we have waited until THIRD generation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brett</p>
<p>iPhone 3G is a second generation product and the software is 2.0! Should we have waited until THIRD generation?</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://macenstein.com/default/2008/07/where-the-is-the-iphone-201-firmware/comment-page-1/#comment-158309</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a huge apple guy now have a macbook pro and an iPhone and so hearing that they are going down in their service or something is hapening to software well for one it&#039;s brand new expect this and two why did you buy a first generation of the 3g you should of waited until they fixed hardware/software bugs.

Now if you expect it to be a hardware problem take it to an apple store and have them check it out for you I did that before and they gave me a new one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge apple guy now have a macbook pro and an iPhone and so hearing that they are going down in their service or something is hapening to software well for one it&#8217;s brand new expect this and two why did you buy a first generation of the 3g you should of waited until they fixed hardware/software bugs.</p>
<p>Now if you expect it to be a hardware problem take it to an apple store and have them check it out for you I did that before and they gave me a new one.</p>
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